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I am truly humbled by this review. I have long respected all of you at FreshNetworks and the amazing work you do. Thank you for sharing my book with your readers and for serving as a major influence for me.
Best,
Angela

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Way to be thought provoking on hump day, Sonny. There is clearly a large number of people who are in it for marketing and me, me, me. It’s like the people who talk about building relationships but really don’t mean it. The payoff from authentic relationships is not immediate, but it can be really huge once it happens.None of us can predict what we will need from others in the future, or what we will be able to provide others in the future, or even tomorrow for that matter. Build your community around the future, not the present. Good post and comments.

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Wow. I am familiar with Insided919. I want to comment though,on your thoughts of building on other platforms such as Ning and essentially leaving yourself open to their decisions. It's an interesting concept and very true. Peter Shankman's HARO started out as a Facebook group. He was not kicked off but their limit at the time stunted his growth, so he moved and created his own thing. Id like to see this topic fleshed out a bit more and possibly talk to some of the folks you mention in this post. Sorry about what happened to you at Inside919.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl
Author, "!8 Rules of Community Engagement:

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Wow. I am familiar with Insided919. I want to comment though,on your thoughts of building on other platforms such as Ning and essentially leaving yourself open to their decisions. It's an interesting concept and very true. Peter Shankman's HARO started out as a Facebook group. He was not kicked off but their limit at the time stunted his growth, so he moved and created his own thing. Id like to see this topic fleshed out a bit more and possibly talk to some of the folks you mention in this post. Sorry about what happened to you at Inside919.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl
Author, "!8 Rules of Community Engagement:

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Wow. I am familiar with Insided919. I want to comment though,on your thoughts of building on other platforms such as Ning and essentially leaving yourself open to their decisions. It's an interesting concept and very true. Peter Shankman's HARO started out as a Facebook group. He was not kicked off but their limit at the time stunted his growth, so he moved and created his own thing. Id like to see this topic fleshed out a bit more and possibly talk to some of the folks you mention in this post. Sorry about what happened to you at Inside919.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl
Author, "!8 Rules of Community Engagement:

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Marin: Thank you so much for recommending my book to your readers and for sharing your insight on the content. I am honored, and will certainly check out the others.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

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I am pretty much running a one woman marketing show myself for my new book, Chris and it is all new to me as well. I am trying everything, and I feel that the social web provides opportunities that we all have yet to discover. It's a tough, but fun adventure and seeing even the smallest fruits of my labor is gratifying. I am not so concerned with Amazon sales rank. In the wider scheme of things for me, I choose not to value that a TON nor will I run one of those deals where I try to get my book to number 1 on Amazon. I just don't believe the hype. I am making local connections. talking to libraries and building a portfolio that will be impressive enough to get me into more bookstores. I have some radio interviews coming up next month. One with Roger Parker of Guerilla Marketing and another on BlogtalkRadio. I am also getting a good return on my investment with SlideShare. I decided to post a media kit there. Just a few thoughts. I enjoy getting new ideas and sharing mine. Your huge following will be a great benefit, but I'm sure you are already well aware of that. :-) Best of luck!
Angela | @communitygirl
http://GrowingSuccessfulOnlineCommunities.com

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I'll gladly jump on this bandwagon, Penelope. I don't want to hear from any more super-influencers blatantly asking me to be part of their super-duper marketing campaign to launch their new book coming out in several months because the mere mention of their name will bring me monster traffic. Guess what big guy? I've written a book too, and it was just released this month and I too, am working on a marketing campaign. I just choose to reach out to those bloggers I've developed relationships with across the social web. So let's try this. You do the same for me. Allow your uber-fame to do something for me by way of book sales as opposed to one day of monster traffic and then maybe I'll help you get to the Amazon bestseller list or New York Bestseller list or whatever your lofty goal is that makes you cold call a gazillion bloggers in an effort to create a firestorm that will catapult you to even higher heights. Sometimes when you cold call, you get cold-called right back. Monster traffic doesn't pay my bills. What else can you offer? Know your audience.
{END RANT}
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

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Sorry to see you go. It was always nice to leave suggestions in the comments and come back to see that you sometimes used them in subsequent posts. You’ve highlighted some good people here. I too, care a great deal about journalism and this endeavor was awesome. Best to you Patrick. Keep me posted on your next move.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl
Author, “18 Rules of Community Engagement” (Happy About, May 2009)

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I just gave a presentation to a group of 8 CEO’s and they were all very concerned about “false information” or what a few called “unverified” info floating across the social web. The group seemed very uncomfortable with the shift from traditional to social media and the lack of gatekeepers. I shared that they can have greater control of their reputation by getting out there and actually having a voice in the space. Perhaps those who think they can do better believe that a different approach to social media and media overall might be key in making that happen.
BTW, Nice meeting you at WordcampRDU on Saturday, Andy.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

Angela Connor’s last blog post..Don’t discount the lurkers in your community

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Jeremiah: I will say that you have not lost your value to me, personally. Many have. They become the ultimate echo chamber and for always talking a good game about community, become so high-level that they can only assoicate with others they deem on or above that level.
Much of it is quite sickening to watch. When I presented at WordcampRDU this past Saturday, I shared my thoughts on those who become so big they no longer value the folks who helped get them there. They are never present in the comments on their blogs and ask of you with no plan of giving anything in return. These people are going find themselves upstaged by the more authentic types who aren’t solely focused on the fame and notoriety. Take some time to decompress, but keep being real with us. It is greatly appreciated. I’d rather read your typos any day as opposed to your virtual assistant’s perfect post.

Angela Connor | @communitygirl

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Thanks for allowing me to guest post and for sharing the information about my book. I’ve read your blog for some time now, and I am happy to be here.

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Wow, the comments here are really interesting. My take: There are some people out there who *enjoy* being fans. If not, rock stars would be out of business. We equate fans with that kind of stardom, but one can be a fan in a way that is low key. If I am a fan of a persons work, it is simply that, nothing more..nothing less. It doesn't mean I'm going to go stake out the next conference with my lawn chair and battery-operated radio, prepared to stay overnight to hear their keynote address. It all about the way you interpret having fans. We all want and need fans. Just maybe not to the degree we have placed on the concept. Chris clearly doesn't like the connotation. To each his own. Again, the conversation here is very interesting. Gald I stopped by today.

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This is ABSOLUTELY what I am talking about and these types of interactions translate well online. I am so not plugging my new book here, but in it I go on and on about the '18 Rules of Community Engagement' and most of them involve simply being HUMAN. Engaging people online and growing communities require the same type of social skills we employ in person without even thinking much about it. That woman became human and started talking about her real life and made it personal. That shift in body language you reference Chris, is the same shift that happens online when that user decides to come and give your site/information/community/product another try. When they sign up for your email, become a member or add you to their RSS feed.Emotions create that shift. We've all struck up a conversation with a stranger in the line at the grocery store once we've both been waiting forever and share a common gripe. Personal experience is what it's all about. It is how I grow community. It works. Share, share and share again.
*Stepping off soapbox now...*
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

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Placing people in a position where they *have* to do this to protect their brand seems a little insensitive and does not provide the best user experience. If you are not interested in the vanity URL you are at risk of someone else getting it and potentially being brandjacked which is a huge disservice. And why is it on a Saturday? I understand the business model here but I think it brings home the point that we do not own these social networks and at the end of the day, their needs will come first. This idea of "ownership" is a bit of a fantasy. One could argue that they need us to be there to have success. Yes as a whole they need us. But with 200 million users, what's the harm in losing a few hundred thousand? A loss they'll gladly take to meet their own goals. Not saying users are powerless but in this numbers game, that is indeed the case.
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

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Angela Connor
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Angela Connor
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About Me
I am a multimedia journalist and community manager who is passionate about online communities and user-generated content. Check out my new book, "18 Rules of Community Engagement" set to publish in May 2009.

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